Mimosa 15 letters column; title illo by Alexis Gilliland
Thanks once again to everyone who sent up a letter (or e-mail) of comment. Receiving your letters of comment really does motivate us to do more issues. Please be assured, too, that all comments on the articles in Mimosa (whether or not they see print in the Letters Column) will find their way back to our contributors, which provides additional motivation to them as well.

The article that gained the most number of comments was Nicki's closing comments about alternative fanzines in the Washington, D.C. area, and the local newspaper article that described them. First up, though, are some comments on Dick's opening essay on the wonders of Internet, and Dave Kyle's look back at the Science Fiction League... }}


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Martin Morse Wooster, Silver Spring, Maryland
Many thanks for Mimosa 14. I suspect that it's a bit of a milestone that a zine as fannish as yours is on the net, but I would hate it if fanzines were only to be one more island in the sea of data. The fanzines I like most are the ones that surprise me and tell me something I didn't know. I'd think that alt.fandom would be very limiting, and wouldn't have room for articles on beer or religion or old films, or topics that would appear on other nodes. Moreover, no one has solved the problem of storing electronic fanzines. Of course you can download files, but reading a stack of printouts doesn't have the same pleasure that leafing through Twiltone does. And of course there's no room on the net for illos by Stiles, Rotsler, or Gilliland.

{{ Actually, although a few fanzines (such as Dave Langford's Ansible) now are available in 'electronic' form, Mimosa is not one of them, for precisely the reasons you list. The only real tie between Mimosa and the Net is that we welcome e-mail letters of comment. }}

[[ ed. note (2005): Obviously, things did change in the years following publication of M14, and a Mimosa web site did come on-line. ]]

David Kyle's piece on "The Science Fiction League" was interesting, but leaves more questions about the League than it answers. If David Kyle is still a member of the SFL, does that mean it still exists? Can I join? Can I start a chapter? Can I become a Doctor of Science Fiction? (Patrick McGuire is the only fan I know with a doctorate in sf, but even he had to convince his advisors that his dissertation on Russian sf was actually political science.) And does Kyle know if which of the two surviving SFL chapters -- the Los Angeles Science Fiction Society and the Philadelphia Science Fiction Society -- is the older? I know the dispute between PSFS and LASFS about the age of their two clubs has been going on for decades and will probably never be resolved, but you'd think by now some neutral fanhistorian would have settled the question, and with all this expertise, Kyle would be a very suitable Solomon on this issue.

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Harry Warner, Jr., Hagerstown, Maryland
This was another fine issue, although some of the material shares the old Mimosa problem of not striking fire with comment hooks no matter how well written and how entertaining it is. I did react to the editorials, though. No matter how enticing you make it seem, I dare not even think about trying Usenet. I can't keep up with the stuff that arrives without benefit of computers and telephone lines. By the time I read them and write a page about each, I'll be back to the old height of the stack of unLoCced fanzines.

I gather from Nicki's editorial {{"The *Zine* Scene" }} that you escaped a possible terrible fate in the form of newspaper publicity, which makes me happy. Of course, the article's claim that 'alternative press' publications became popular in 1982 is nonsense. Such periodicals have at least a couple centuries' history behind them and 1982 was apparently cited because it was around then that Mike Gunderloy began to publish Factsheet Five and to incorrectly call them fanzines. I doubt if they exist in nearly the quantity today than back in the 1960s when they were usually known as underground publications. I've been reading a big biography of Thackaray and discovered that he was involved in a number of such ventures in his youth, more than a century and a half ago.

Dave Kyle's article is a very useful complement to the long article about the Science Fiction League published by Robert W. Lowndes a year or two ago. Reading Dave's recollections about the SFL made me regret even more bitterly than ever that I never joined it. Since I was a packrat even in my teens, I probably would still have one of those beautiful lapel buttons and some stationery and other relics of that venture. I can't remember for certain why I didn't join; maybe it was an erroneous belief that all these science fiction fans were middle-aged and elderly people while I was not yet in my teens, or maybe it was the need to cut out a coupon from Wonder Stories. Any mutilation of my precious prozines was unthinkable in 1934.
CHAT cartoon by Teddy Harvia
Patrick McGuire, Columbia, Maryland
On Nicki's "The *Zine* Scene", I missed The Washington Post's article listing Mimosa, although I have seen other ones about this new wave of non-sf-fannish fanzines. It's not clear, however, if this phenomenon can be taken to refute one supposed cause of the hypothetical greying of sf fanzine fandom. People usually have not asserted that it's harder to publish a fanzine today than before. On the contrary, it's easier (although the expense might be a barrier to the very young fans). The argument is that there are other things to do (conventions, role playinggames, and various computer activities such as bulletin boards and games) that are even easier, or have faster gratification. It would be perfectly consistent if sf fans, by tradition logical thinkers and technophiles, might be moving out of fanzines into new frontiers such as these even while punk-rockers, Brady Bunch addicts, and the like were just starting to pub their ishes. There could be some irony in closing with Nicki's comments in an issue that opened with Dick's enthusing over his discovery of the Internet. On the other hand, I'm still unaware of any solid evidence that fandom is graying to a greater degree than we would expect from general demographics (i.e., the end of the Baby Boom). Some younger fans show up in all the fanzines I follow regularly.

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Jenny Glover, Leeds, United Kingdom
I very much enjoyed reading the latest Mimosa, until I came to the closing comments on the zine scene. Your point: that these zines are considered radical (though they don't use SF content) is a valid one, but I wondered first whether a tradition always needs to be kept going, and secondly why the younger fans are always volunteered for it. I've just seen issues of two Brit zines and while the editors may perhaps have kept a youthful attitude, it certainly isn't matched by their chronological ages.

I also think of a fanzine as being something people aim for, rather than something they come to from something else. That's not to say that fanzines are only for people who don't know any better; what I'm trying to say is that the move towards producing a fanzine should be a positive one, rather than being enticed away from, say, computer nets or multi-sided dice, in order to fit someone else's ideas of how a fanzine should be produced. It's exciting, therefore, that there was a feature on these local Washington zines and also that there were enough to make it an interesting article.

My own fanzine, very much dormant currently, but showing signs of recovery as my fingers twitch and I come up with ideas, started before I came into fandom. I knew of the existence of fanzines, and even had seen a few, but my concern was to distract someone I knew who was sick, to give her a new hobby, and so I asked her for help. She produced some very bad articles, followed by some not-so-bad ones, followed by some ok-ish ones (or maybe my editorial skills were being honed by then). I produced the fanzine, and the circulation was absolutely minimal (I think the circulation of issue 1 was eight copies). Looking back at it, sure, it's pretty awful. But the intention was not to produce a prize-winning fanzine, but to give this person some goal to aim at. It worked to a certain extent -- the person, whom I loved very much, grew out of writing articles and started on a book. She would sit propped up at the kitchen table, her characters whirring about in and out of her head, and soon, while she still took an interest in the fanzine, she and it parted company, which left me free to take an abrupt turn towards Science Fiction.

I know it was a pretty bizarre reason for starting a fanzine; the fanzine went into hibernation shortly after she died. I'm wondering if my period of mourning is officially over, now that I feel pangs and urges to start pubbing an ish again...

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Irwin Hirsh, East Prahran, Victoria, Australia
Thanks for Mimosa 14, which arrived here in good condition a couple of months ago. The covers by Kurt Erichsen are a nice one-two. When I looked at the front cover I thought it was one of the weaker covers you've presented us. My initial feeling was that there was nothing new here, another kids playing with rockets story. Then I looked at the back cover and saw the joke. It was almost as if Erichsen had read my mind and was playing to my experience and biases.

That definition of a zine from The Washington Post, which Nicki quotes, is interesting. 'Produced for kicks' I like. There's a thrill about publishing a fanzine, watching it evolve under your direction. And because we do it for no other reason than we want to, we're into fanzine publishing for the kicks. But I'm not sure about the last bit: 'at a loss to the publisher'. With the fanzines I've published I've never felt I was publishing at a loss. By the time I'd made the decision that I want to pub my ish, the matter of money has been passed. It's just a question of how I want to spend my own time and money. I wonder how people who regularly water-ski or spend their weekends bush-walking feel: That they are doing so at a loss, or that the activity is money well spent? The idea that fanzine publishing is done at a loss suggests that there is a business of fnz-publishing, when, in fact, I was in the hobby of fnz-publishing. That people choose to spend their money publishing a fanzine is one of the charms of the activity.
illo by William Rotsler & Teddy Harvia
Terry Jeeves, Scarborough, North Yorkshire, United Kingdom
Dick's "Alt.Clueless" had me drooling at the thought of using my new PC to contact all sorts of interesting people -- until I realized that one had to pay a phone bill, and over here that gets pricey.

[[ed. note (2005): Once again, things did change in the years following publication of M14, and Terry did manage to gain Internet access. ]]

Mike Glyer's article {{"A Child's Garden of Rockets" }} related some highly entertaining 'rockets' and one must be thankful that they were all passed off without bloodshed. Kyle was also interesting. I remember the days of the SFL but as a youngster of ten, and I was in no position to find out how to send 15¢ or whatever to such a far off land as America. I did write a letter to Wonder, and another to Astounding, but those early letters sank without a trace and my first prozine letter didn't appear until 1948.

The front and bacovers by Kurt Erichsen were also great and reminded me of a brief stay many years ago with Mike Banks in Milford, Ohio, when we fired off numerous model rockets made by Mike -- who later went on to write much SF as well as several books on rocketry.

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George Flynn, Cambridge, Massachusetts
Mike Glyer's piece on Hugo-award mishaps was (sobering) fun, and I should respond by telling about some of the ones I've been involved with. For example, when I was Hugo Administrator in 1980, we had the last official presentation of the Gandalf Award for Grand Master of Fantasy. ('Official' involves a theological argument that I won't go into.) The voting itself was exciting enough: We had a tie for the winner, confirmed by a couple of recounts, until at the last minute a final ballot arrived by sea mail from England and gave it to Ray Bradbury by one vote. So I sent the results off to Lin Carter, who sponsored the award and was responsible for showing up with the plaque.

That was the end of my official responsibility for it, since other people were in charge of the ceremony; but of course I was on hand that night just in case there were any problems with the results. Things went fine until emcee Bob Silverberg called on Lin Carter to present the Gandalf -- and it turned out that he wasn't there! (Apparently he didn't come to the con at all.) There followed general consternation, sarcastic cracks by Silverberg, and the horrified realization on my part that I was the only person in the building who knew the result. So I rushed a note to the stage, and a couple of Hugos later Silverberg announced the winner. But I never did hear whether Bradbury got his plaque.

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Guy H. Lillian III, New Orleans, Louisiana
As a Nolacon committee member, I am distraught to discover that Mike Glyer dislikes Ned Dameron's design of the 1988 Hugo Award base. Rather than assault Mike's faultless aesthetics with such an eyesore, I volunteered to take the offending trophy off his hands -- or mantle, as it were. I was also a nominee that year in the Fan Writer category, and would have been only too pleased to number the Nolacon Hugo, or indeed any Hugo, among my possessions. No matter what the base, I hope I would regard it with gratitude and, dare I say, graciousness.

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Mark L. Olson, Framingham, Massachusetts
I liked Mike Glyer's article on Hugo ceremonies with one quibble: He may remember nothing from Chicon V's 'perfect 100-minute ceremony', but I distinctly remember at the time wishing that the elaborate charade introducing that year's rather pedestrian Hugo rocket design had been much, much shorter.

It's a pity that there seems to be so little overlap between the set of adventurous and creative Hugo ceremonies and the set of successful ones. Some day some Worldcon will do a complex, creative Hugo ceremony with no technical glitches, which starts on time, with no one unable to get seating, that isn't too long, and with no mistakes. And overhead, one by one, the stars will go out.

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Buck Coulson, Hartford City, Indiana
Ah, yes, Rocket Stories. Actually, the base for our Hugo looks very nice, even after 28 years knocking around our house and going through two moves. The rocket, however... We weren't at the con to receive it and it wouldn't have done any good even if we had been, because the rockets weren't ready yet. We got it through the mail, nine months later, and the rocket looked a bit like it had spent all that time knocking around the asteroid belt in the hands of an incompetent pilot. Pitted, in other words. Nobody had blown a hole through the drive section or anything, but it did look like a hard-working ship. Well, the Hugo had started having a primary and final ballot in 1959, and Yandro had been on it every year until we won in 1965, and for 3 more years afterwards. So we started calling Yandro 'the world's best second-rate fanzine'. Had to quit that after we won, but we decided that a second-rate Hugo for a second-rate fanzine was quite appropriate. We found it was very useful for holding 3-inch rolls of tape in our previous dwelling, but here it's on top of the piano with the other trophies and an inconvenient location for tape. Pity; there never used to be any cries of "Where the hell's the masking tape?" It was right there in plain sight.

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Hans Persson, Linkoping, Sweden
Mike Glyer's Hugo article highlighted some of the goofs and oddities that have taken place during the years and is probably as good a proof as any that you will be one of the better-remembered winners yourselves. Since you almost were cheated out of the Hugo during the presentation at the 1992 Worldcon, people will continue to write about the event long afterwards.

Meanwhile, Dave Langford's article about making newszines on location at a convention {{ "You Do It With Mirrors" }} was very entertaining, and managed to convince me that I should never get involved in such an undertaking.

As for Ahrvid Engholm's article on Swedish fan hoaxes {{"Vanishing Fans" }}, the last time I saw him he seemed to be real, but then on the other hand I can't vouch for the real sender of the article, so I suppose we will have to continue to be uncertain here.

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Vincent Clarke, Welling, Kent, United Kingdom
A very good issue, casting light on fan history from the `30s to David Langford's brilliant `93 Helicon report. I was particularly interested to see Ahrvid Engholm's glimpse into Swedish fandom. When I came back into fandom in `81 after a 20-year absence, Walt Willis wrote me a short exegesis of what had been going on, including the fact that the Swedes had taken `50s British fanzines at face value (just as we, in the `50s, had based our Conventions on U.S. zine reports) and had more or less modelled their fandom on what they'd read. Except for some lurid and hardly-believable news items that escaped from Sweden this is all I've heard, and I'd love to read some sort of fan history of that country.

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Eric Mayer, Rochester, New York
How much can one believe an article about Swedish hoaxes?! It seems to me, almost twenty years ago, someone tried to set up a hoax apa. Now that just wouldn't seem to be workable. If you know its going to be a hoax then how can it be successful? Today, hoax fans would have to be rather low key wouldn't they? Any BNF would be expected to show up at conventions pretty quickly, thereby blowing the cover. Any new fan who popped up and didn't attend cons would probably be considered a hoax, real or not.

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Dave Rowe, Franklin, Indiana
First, I must object to Guy Lillian referring (in your letters column) to Arthur C. Clark's 2001 novel as a "rather simplistic von Daniken pastiche." Especially as the novel was published in 1968 and therefore predates all of van Daniken's 'Garbagetrucks of the Gods' series. In fact you'll find that in or around 1968 von Daniken was languishing in an Austrian jail for fraud!

No doubt you've received many LoCs about fan-hoaxes inspired by Ahrvid Engholm's article. (By the way, is Ahrvid a hoax? The name looks suspiciously like a bad anagram. Anyway...) Back in the early `70s, "Gray Boak's" editorial in his fnz Cynic revealed that he was really a hoax created by a USAF pilot Pat Henderson stationed in England, and he had had so much fun with the 'Gray Boak' hoax that he's also created a hoax female schoolteacher working at his base and called her (would you believe) 'Pat Henderson'.

The truth was the whole thing was a hoax-hoax. 'Gray Boak' was Gray Boak and 'Pat Henderson' was a female schoolteacher based at a USAF site in England.

It was the last of a long line of Pat Henderson jokes which started when her much-heralded appearance at the London Circle's Globe was delayed by Gray's car breaking down. And when it appeared that she was not going to appear, someone started accusing Arthur Cruttenden of actually being Pat.

Gray's editorial was immediately known to be a joke in Britain, but in the States it caused some confusion and at least one New York City SMOF phoned a counterpart in Los Angeles to compare notes. In those pre-fibre-optics days and living in the British Isles where you can't get more than 100 miles away from the coast, being the subject of a trans-continental phone call was mega-egoboo.
illo by Brad Foster
Steve Sneyd, Almondbury, Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, United Kingdom
Swedish 'Hoaximus' sounds as though it has an almost Germanic thoroughness... an amusing read, but I was felt with strong feelings about the author's apparent total lack of concern for the poor lass who was seduced by the bogus Canadian-ness of the hoaxer. Alright, she was obviously gullible as hell, but surely that kind of sexual gratification by use of deception is not only grounds for prosecution (under Brit law, anyhow) but also a fairly unrefined cruelty. Just because something happens in fandom doesn't, surely, wash it free of all 'normal' interpersonal relations codes?

The two movie articles were fascinating, especially Terry Jeeves' lovely wallow in the past {{"The Movies" }}. Yeah, I remember going in the cheap front row, then trying to sneak uphill away from that mind-boggling spot when the lights went down. I also remember having to avoid sitting under the balcony edge or you got ice cream or whatever dribbled on you.

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Bill Donoho, Oakland, California
Terry Jeeves's mention of movie serials reminds me that I always felt deprived because the small town in Texas I grew up in only had one movie theater. It had serials every Saturday, but they were mostly western things. The only remotely science fiction serial they showed was In Darkest Africa with Clyde Beatty; it was mostly a jungle film, but there was a lost city complete with a white goddess and Bat Men. I loved it! I sat through several westerns just to see the latest chapter.

I was nine years old then. That serial was shown again on late night TV a couple of years back. I taped it, but I haven't had the courage to watch it yet...

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Rich Dengrove, Alexandria, Virginia
Ahrvid Engholm's `80s Sweden may be been the last refuge of the science fiction hoax. I haven't heard of any good hoax in science fiction lately. We have lost that part of our youthful vigor -- among others. I have asked, and no one can remember the last good hoax. Not even those little green men from the flying saucer could remember. And that was despite the fact that they were wearing fan badges.

Concerning David Thayer's article on war movies {{"I Can't Watch: A Personal Look at War Movies and More" }}, I have this to say: how can you want to go back and re-live the Vietnam War in movies? If I had been through hell, and Vietnam seems like hell, I don't think I'd want to re-live the experience, even vicariously. If Hamburger Hill would make me re-live it, I think I would avoid that movie like the Ten Plagues. It doesn't seem like an experience you can get right no matter how much you re-live it. So, there must be something about it I, a draft rejectee, can never understand.

Nobody can please everyone, especially with movie reviews. And Terry Jeeves didn't satisfy me. I think Korda's Things to Come is overrated. It's too pretentious; half the dialogue is done in epigrams, people saying great things while standing there like cigar-store Indians. On the other hand, I think The Phantom Empire is radically underrated. It's true that it's better than laughing gas if you're an adult, but as a kid I loved it. It mixed my favorite genres: westerns and science fiction. And, like Terry, I adored those scads and scads of robots.

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Juanita Coulson, Hartford City, Indiana
My movie-going experiences fall somewhere between the real old timers' and David Thayer's. Nobody seems to have mentioned The Devil Commands (which Robert Bloch and I once chatted about enthusiastically and at length at a long ago Midwestcon). Or what it was like to be youngish and female when the expert entomologist (female) in Them chews out "Stand back, little lady, and let a Man handle this" for his ignorance and asininity and actually makes him back down. Square cube law idiocies about big ants and all aside, that single exchange alone was worth the price of the picture for me and thousands of other young women.
illo by Sheryl Birkhead
Ken Lake, [[ ed. note (2005): at the time, in transition, somewhere in... ]] United Kingdom

David Thayer's piece somewhat niggled me: as a schoolboy living through the Blitz, Battle of Britain, etc. (from age 8 to age 14, we never knew if we'd be alive the next morning), I found British WWII films as essential part of coming to terms with life, but U.S. ones pure fantasy (although Mrs. Miniver, for all its error, caught the feel of the times superbly -- N.B. neither the U.S. Army nor Errol Flynn won the war in Burma).

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Tracy Shannon, Monona, Wisconsin
I thought Dave Langford's "You Do It with Mirrors" in issue 14 was a great conrunner's microcosm: the inadvertent volunteer, the late-arriving equipment that fails to work, dealing with offending (and offensive) people, exhaustion, horror, mass-hysteria, and total collapse. Not to mention immediately being asked to do it all again. Quite a nice little cautionary tale, in all, and he even managed to work in the perennial complainers. While I was working on a Friday at-con newsletter for Wiscon, The Mad Moose Gazette, someone wandered in with a fake panel review. Since panel #2 had previously been dropped, their report described it as being entitled 'Iron Ian' and concerning the men's movement in Britain, featuring such panelists as Nigel Rowe. I joyfully published this piece of nonsense...only to have a fan complain to me the next day that panel #2 must have been scheduled far too early on Friday, since she's missed it! She was quite miffed with me (I was head of programming).

All in all, a great issue as usual. I freely admit that I dread the day Sharon Farber gives up either writing or medicine. Not that her articles have much to do with fannish history, but who the heck cares when they are as fascinating and entertaining as these are.

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Elizabeth Osborne, Inverness, Florida
Sharon Farber's "Tale of Adventure and Medical Life" was great as usual. You want to say to the doctor that you feel bad but also, even if you're not faking it, to be believed. That can tend to make patients exaggerate their problems. Like a visit to the car repair shop. As soon as I turn into the service station the strange knocking under the hood stops. Then I have to spend a half hour talking about "this strange sound that the engine makes."

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R Laurraine Tutihasi, Los Angeles, California
I just finished reading your latest issue. Enjoyed it as usual, especially Sharon Farber's continuing escapades as a medical practitioner.

In the letters column, Buck Coulson may feel comforted by the fact that some libraries have collections of fanzines. I learned this recently in a conversation with Bruce Pelz. He and other fans contribute zines to these collections.

{{Libraries with science fiction fanzine collections (that we've heard about) include the University of Alabama, Syracuse University, UCLA, and the University of New Brunswick (Saint John campus). }}

[[ed. note (2005): We should have also mentioned the large collection of fanzines at Temple University in Philadelphia. And it turned out we were in error about UCLA's library having a fanzine collection. Instead, we should have mentioned what is now probably the world's largest collection of fanzines, incorporating the former collections of both the late Terry Carr and the late Bruce Pelz. It's at the University of California at Riverside. ]]

I found getting involved in fanzine fandom even easier than Don Franson describes. For me it started with some flyers I picked up at Torcon 2 in 1973. As a result, I subscribed to Andy Porter's zine, which I believe was called Algol at that time. I had a letter published in that. People picked up my address from the lettercol, and I started to receive fanzines. As I received fanzines and locced them, more people picked up my address. It continues to this day.
illo by Sheryl Birkhead
Ethel Lindsay, Carnoustie, Angus, Scotland
I do enjoy the Sharon Farber stories and feel that anyone who calls her callous must have very little perception. The detachment needed for doctors also applies to nurses. Getting emotionally involved never helped any patient.

In the letters column, Andrew P. Hooper's mention of anti-fannish feeling among some modern fans touched a chord in me. I once had my TAFF report criticized for being 'too complimentary' to my hosts! Fandom enriched my life, such a pity if this does not happen now.

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David Clark, Berkeley, California
One habit I've developed with Mimosa is to always turn to Sharon Farber first. Now, I know that you've had other people comment on how they do this, but it's very unusual for me. The publisher's term for me, if I remember correctly, is 'grazer'. I just start at the start of a magazine and plow my way through to the end. But Farber makes me jump to her article first. I even jumped over the Langford article last time!

Speaking of Langford, I enjoyed his Tales of Olde Heliograph. I've been hearing about the Helicon newsletter from various sources, along with the occasional unfulfilled promise to show me a copy. (Usually followed by grumbles of "Why can't your newsletter be like that?") It's also interesting to read of British conventions. After a few years of Baycons, Westercons, Worldcons, and the like, I'm used to the idea of young people acting like fans. Langford's article presents the image that in the U.K., the pros are acting like fans. We may not be ready for this over here.

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Lloyd Penney, Brampton, Ontario, Canada
Concerning Dave Langford's article, I remember when our con did newsletters...we actually stopped producing them, though, and just used a huge corkboard. First, no one wanted to work on the newsletter (and we haven't had one now for about five years), and second, people were too busy Collecting The Whole Set to actually read them. "You changed the programme!" "We announced the change in the daily newsletter. You did read it, didn't you?" "Ummm... errr..." I will readily admit that I laughed at Dave Langford's piece until I cried and beyond, and Yvonne got a few chuckles out of it, too. (She's a tough audience, Dave.)

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Henry Welch, Grafton, Wisconsin
Thanks for issue 14. I really enjoyed "You Do It with Mirrors" and I don't think I'll ever be able to tell my son to "go to bed" with a straight face.

{{Hm.... }}

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Steve Jeffery, Kidlington, Oxon, England
First up with Dave Langford (first of many, we hope). This is hilarious. And well complemented by Steve Stiles' cartoons. The sight of gophers laden with multicolored reams of Cactus Times is becoming a high point at major conventions, and after; the Mexicon foray of scurrilous and litigatious tidbits extending to several post-convention extra-numerary issues (Volume 4, issues pi and venus). Rob Hansen, in Then #4, described the Fan Room as a convention within a convention. My one innocent venture into this secret realm found a scene straight out of the Inferno, as written by a fan, which Dave captures perfectly. You could cross 50 years of publishing technology (all of it downhill) as you crossed from the overheated desktop publishing, on which Dave was typing furiously while other fans were cheerfully frying eggs on its casing, to Vin¢'s sparking and smoking e-stencil, to a couple of ink besmeared fen kick-starting an ancient duper into activity. At times, a small demonic figure erupted through this smoky uproar, trailing four-letter invectives. "Abi Frost," Dave explained with an oddly strained smile.

Concerning Mike Glyer's article, I have held a Hugo. Not mine, I hasten to add. And the base didn't even fall off. I dunno, I think they're quite impressive. Certainly they could do a lot of damage in the wrong hands, and they seem very useful for keeping the pantry door closed. Awards are what you think of them, and what they mean to the recipient. I hope you enjoy yours, even if it does stop that last book falling annoying of the edge of the bookshelf.

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Gary Deindorfer, Trenton, New Jersey
Since I have a cat, Butch, I always get a big charge out of "Chat, the 4th Fannish Ghod." Harvia always amuses, as he does elsewhere in this issue. And speaking of artwork, Joe Mayhew's heading illo for Dave Kyle's article, and the other Mayhew illos for the Kyle offering, are superb.

Shelby Vick's piece {{"Time Was..." }} I perceive to be quaint, like something from Ye Olde Curiosity Shoppe. I don't know why, but Shelby's writings always strike me that way. But they are something I like, a lot.

Maybe I feel more kindly toward the Willis letter-file reminiscences {{"I Remember Me" }} than I have in the past, but they are growing on me. I especially am ghassed by the Robert Bloch letter. Bloch is always so witty.

Also, I feel more kindly toward Sharon Farber than I used to. I can see her point that a doctor has to be callous to a certain degree, and that this does not at all mean that said physician is a quack.

David Thayer (whom I hear is a close friend of Teddy Harvia's) saw combat first-hand, in person, and I can understand why this experience spoiled war movies for him. Very well done piece of writing. He writes as well as his friend Teddy draws.

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Leland Sapiro, Big Sandy, Texas
Extra-clever idea on the front and back covers of Mimosa 14 by Kurt Erichsen: various artists have shown the launching of an unguided missile, but here's the first one to also show its unexpected arrival...

One correction to Ed Meskys's letter {{about a police raid of Harlan Ellison's apartment in the early 1960s }}: it wasn't drugs that the stoolie reported in Harlan Ellison's apartment, but firearms -- a supposed violation of New York City's strict Sullivan Law on their unlawful possession. (Harlan exhibited these weapons to audiences in lectures he was giving on New York City street gangs.) As a result, Harlan had to spend a night in NYC's legendary jail, the Tombs -- an experience re-counted in his book Memos From Purgatory.

With respect to Shelby Vick's note on the Establishment attitude toward this sf trash, note the word-order here: the phrase 'trashy sf' would imply the possibility of non-trashy sf, which for the Establishment is inconceivable. The classic instance is Charles Hornig's being ejected from a public library (in the `30s) for daring to bring some of these sf trash magazines into the building.

{{Sounds like that might make a good article for a future Mimosa! }}

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Roger Waddington, Malton, North Yorkshire, United Kingdom
Though comparing and contrasting, as in those homework assignments, while not having known here, not even knowing she existed, Howard DeVore's "Nancy with the Laughing Eyes" came much more alive for me, I could see the person she was; and considering the above, that's really uncanny! If anything could be truly described as being true to life, this must surely be in the running.
illo by Brad Foster
Gregg Calkins, Jackson, California
Sometimes when reading Mimosa, I stop feeling like an old fan and tired, and it almost seems like I am back in the good old days (which were then, of course, the present) once again. Reading Willis and Vick and Jeeves seems like normal times, and the occasional contributions by Kyle and DeVore (who were already even then old pharts from the past) make it even more contemporary, somehow. The mimeographed pages on Twiltone continue the illusion (you could improve only by using several colors) that today is still yesterday. Alas, the end of the issue eventually comes and I am returned to the horrors of the present. Still, knowing that Walt and ShelVy, and Terry are still alive is...comforting. Too often the news is sad, as was Howard's touching letter about Nancy Moore Shapiro. I knew her, not well -- it's Hal Shapiro at the Chicon II that I remember best, although her picture is vivid -- but still her death diminished me subtly. Only 59, my own exact age. Nothing has touched me so centrally since I lost Lee Jacobs and Ron Ellik, perhaps not even the death of my own stepson. I fear this will be a misunderstood statement, and as I have not the will tonight to explain it in detail, I consider retracing it...still, I've said it.

{{One of the fulfilling things about preservationism, even in fanzines, is the knowledge that you've done something -- even if only a little -- to prevent the memories from fading away. We are only a forum for this, though; we appreciate people like you and Howard DeVore for taking the time to preserve and document memories of people, happenings, and organizations that would otherwise eventually be lost.

But back to the 'food' theme of this issue... We received many responses to our solicitation for contributions, including everything from limericks, to recipes, to vignettes too short to make stand-alone articles. The following letter contains one of these mini-articles... }}


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Ahrvid Engholm, Stockholm, Sweden
You mentioned that next Mimosa would be about fannish food. I can only contribute with the fact that the most important fannish food in Sweden is unpiled peanuts. It all began in the `60s when Lars-Olov Strandberg housed the majority of the meetings for the Scandinavian SF Association in his apartment on Folkskole Street in Stockholm. In these meetings unpiled peanuts became standard food. The peanuts were present on every meeting for one and a half decades (until the late `70s), and they are still present now and then even when Strandberg doesn't arrange the meetings.

In the early '80s the local Stockholm convention Nasacon decided to start the Great Peanut Race. We took the idea from the Great Pork Pie Race of British Eastercons. The rules were simple: you should transport an unpiled peanut approximately two meters, by mechanical devices or other means. You were not allowed to simply pick up the peanut and carry it -- but anything else was permitted.

In the mid to the late `80s, the Great Peanut Race reached incredible scientific heights, through the research of a group calling themselves The Peanut Defence Initiative (consisting of Thord Nilson, Jorgen Stadje, Nils Segerdahl, and others). I could mention:
  • The electroshock peanut controlled by the red button. The button was designed to resemble a nuclear warhead release button, and there were a number of computer displays and electrical apparatus in the setup. When the red button was pressed, an irreversible countdown started, and after ten seconds the peanut was flipped away.


  • The electric spoon peanut consisted of a precision motor that held a spoon. The peanut could be tossed up in the air and caught again by the spoon, tossed up in the air and be flipped away with the backside of the spoon, and the device could do lots of other neat tricks.


  • But most impressive of all was the maglev peanut, that is, the magnetic levitation peanut. The Peanut Defence Initative built a working magnetic train track, where the peanut floated on a small carriage. This contribution was also shown on the national Swedish TV News, which did a report from Nasacon.
So, peanuts, that's what Swedish fan food is. In Linkoping's SF Society, they eat a sort of candy that looks like flying saucers, but I don't know how the tradition got started. An ex-fan, one John Tehlin, around 1979 invented an ice cream called 'Fanana Split', basically ice cream with chocolate sauce decorated so that it would look like a starry sky. In the ice cream you'd stick a banana, and make it look like a spaceship by applying fins cut out of paper on it. Tehlin gafiated really fast, and has now reappeared as a stand-up comedian on Swedish TV.

And of course, tea has always been important. Along with Strandberg's peanuts you should drink Lipton's yellow bag-tea; nothing else would do. The SF clubs in Stockholm and Gothenburg later had their tea fanatics forming special groups. In Stockholm we had the 'Tea Drinking Party (the party for a better tea culture)' that published numerous issues of its zine The Tea-drinker. On the Minicons at the end of the '70s, the Tea Drinking Party would organize tea corners, offering 25 different brands of tea. The party was lead by two people that called themselves 'SuperExtremeColonelGeneralPartyChairman' and 'SuperNotQuiteAsExtremeColonelGeneral VicePartyChairman'.
illo by William Rotsler & Sheryl 
Birkhead
Catherine Mintz, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
I was especially interested in the mentions in Mimosa's letters column of old fanzines and their expected lifetimes. I purchased a thin sheaf of N3F zines back in the beginning of 1993 from Andy Hooper; some of what I have will be reprinted in the N3F's letterzine, Tightbeam. Now I'm on a hunt for old neffania, particularly that from the forties and fifties. While Donald Franson has a collection running from the early sixties forward, and I have some things from the very early sixties that I received from Howard DeVore, almost everything from the first two decades is missing. I'd greatly appreciate xerox copies of the older zines.

There is a lot that is of contemporary interest in these old fanzines. For example, an issue of Fanvariety contains an "All Our Yesterdays" column by Harry Warner, Jr., an "STF Quiz" about pulp magazines by Bob Silverberg, and several early illustrations by Bill Rotsler. Harry Warner's piece starts out like this: "It happens like this. Joe Fann puts out an excellent fan magazine. He digs up material which other fans have labored to write, and a hundred or so persons receive copies of the issue. The magazine is read, it becomes the topic of letters to the editor, and that's the end of it. The years pass, fans come and go, new fandoms spring up, thousands of people pass through the field for long or short periods. And in those future years, only a tiny proportion of the new fans see or read that particular fanzine and its contents. It seems to me a dreadful waste of good reading matter..." The voice is familiar and the comments apropos.

I'd appreciate any help your readers can give in the hunt for our past.

{{We're happy to second this request. }}

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Robert Bloch, Los Angeles, California
Thanks to you both, Mimosa #14 will accompany me to Necronomicon to read on the plane (while the idiot next to me works on his computer -- they always do nowadays). Scary to realize that Willis, Harris, Kyle, and others are still apparently in possession of all sorts of incriminating material from forty or more years ago. One would think all that stuff had been shredded by now!

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We Also Heard From:
Harry Andruschak, Lon Atkins, C.S.F. Baden, Pamela Boal, Ned Brooks, Terry Broome, Gary Brown, Ken Bulmer, Dennis Caswell, Russell Chauvenet, Esther Cole, Chester Cuthbert, Nick DiChario, Carolyn Doyle, Cathy Doyle, Linda Dunn, Leigh Edmonds, Walter Ernsting, Sharon Farber, Tom Feller, Elizabeth Garrott, Tim Gatewood, Janice Gelb, Judith Hanna, Mark Harris, Harry Henderson, Binker Hughes, Alan Hutchinson, Ben Indick, Tom Jackson, Ben Jason, Irv Koch, Linda Krawecke, Dave Langford, Sam Long, Adrienne Losin, William Lund, J.R. Madden, Joseph T. Major, Bill Mallardi, Laurie Mann, Pat Molloy, Lewis Morley, Joseph Nicholas, Pär Nilsson, Jodie Offutt, Bruno Ogorelec, Mark Olson, Karen Pender-Gunn, Robert Peterson, Sarah Prince, Charlotte Proctor, Peggy Ranson, Tom Sadler, Ben Schilling, Noreen Shaw, Els Somers, Malgorzata Wilk, Bridget Wilkinson, Walter Willis, and Ben Yalow. Thanks!

Title illustration by Alexis Gilliland
Chat cartoon by Teddy Harvia
Other illustrations by William Rotsler & Teddy Harvia, William Rotsler & Sheryl Birkhead, Brad Foster, and Sheryl Birkhead


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